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Old 19th June 2009, 09:46 PM
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Default Need boxergirl cycle info,, did we miss our window for love??

well after trying to find a local stud to no avail, we found one acceptable YAY!

question, our girl started spotting 2 weeks ago. then stopped. Thought we missed our window (??) then late last week / weekend she spotted again for a day or so. How long do we have after the spotting stops to crank up the barry white and get these 2 lovebirds together?
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Old 20th June 2009, 07:23 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't breed my animals, but isn't this something a responsible breeder should already know?
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Old 20th June 2009, 04:29 PM
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wow, i dont remember stating that i was a breeder, nor a seller. wow i would assume the admin would ask before jumping to conclusions and insulting,m please delete our membership, Ill have no part of such a nasty "if you have 1 single litter your a scum breeder" website. she is 4 and we have carefully planned her life for ONE litter and no more before altering her. we have been careful and responsible and your additude is a disgraceful insult and a poor example.
delete us please.
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Old 20th June 2009, 05:06 PM
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You don't have to state that you are a breeder or a seller for anyone to read between the lines. You made reference to finding the perfect stud for your girl and wanting to and I quote...
"crank up the Barry White and get these 2 lovebirds together".

Breeder....er...Back Yard Breeder. Potentially a seller, unless you are planning on keeping the entire litter or re-homing them for free? Or are you are planning on the stud wearing a condom?

You have no idea about the ins and out of breeding hence asking this type of question to begin with. I feel sorry for your dog and any future pups she may have.
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Old 20th June 2009, 05:12 PM
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again, being insulting.. Is it not possible here to state yourt point without treating people poorly? No we do not plan to sell any. I have a huge family and they will all stay within my family as they will be quickly spoken for. if nobody ever bred you wouldnt have a boxers. as i stated i no longer wish to be registered on this site please delete our account, the additudes here are a disgrace and the admin promotes it.
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Old 20th June 2009, 08:41 PM
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How funny to get so defensive over a simple question.
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Old 21st June 2009, 06:00 AM
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http://www.heroswaggintrain.com/bybreed_pm_book.htm

The Backyard Breeders' and Puppy Millers' Big Book of Old Excuses
© Denna Pace 2001

1. When called on bad breeding practices, ALWAYS claim that you are merely an innocent posting as a favor to a friend or family member.

2. Point out that everybody you know breeds this way, therefore it must be
okay.

3. Claim that "snobby show breeders" are only criticizing you because they
want to corner the market on puppy profit.

4. Claim that a Champion in the pedigree is just as good as 56 Champions in the pedigree. Not that it matters, because you doubt that there is such a
thing as a dog with 56 champions in the pedigree.

5. Claim that you are just trying to produce good pets, therefore good pets
are all you need for breeding.

6. When asked about health testing, enthusiastically point out that your
bitch had a health checkup before breeding.

7. Be sure to mention that you do not need to run such health tests as OFA,
CERF, thyroid, cardiac, patellae, etc., because your dogs look healthy and
had no visible problems at their last vet checkup.

8. Point out that these tests cost too much and would cut into your profit
margin. Be sure to champion the right of poor people to breed dogs.

9. Confidently assure worried rescuers that no puppy you produce, or any of
their puppies or grand puppies or great-grandpuppies will end up in shelters
because you have a bunch of friends who have told you that they'd like a pup
from your bitch.

10. Point out that you don't need Championships or working titles on your
dogs because you are breeding for temperament and your dog is really sweet.

11. Silence those annoying people who ask about your health guarantee by
assuring them that buyers can return any sick puppies and you will replace
it with another pup as long as it got sick within a certain amount of time
of sale and as long as you don't think the buyer did something to make the
puppy sick.

12. If your breed or line is rare (or you have a "rare" color, or believe
your breed or color is rare), be sure to remind everyone that you do not
need to show, temperament test, or health test your breeding stock because
you are doing the world a service by continuing this "rare" breed/color/line.

13. No matter what anyone else says, claim that you obviously know what you are doing because you've been breeding for a long time. Point to the
hundreds of puppies you've pumped out over the years as proof.

14. If this is your first attempt at breeding, make sure to remind everyone
that you HAVE to breed your dog because how else are you going to learn how to breed?

15. Assure everyone that your dog does not need to be shown because you were assured by someone at Petsmart/the park/the vet's office/a friend that your dog is a perfect example of the breed.

16. Always remember that "rare" colors, oversized or undersized dogs, and
mixes of popular breeds are great selling points. Anyone who doesn't think
so is obviously not in tune with their customers' wishes.

17. Claim that your dogs are better because they are not inbred, as
inbreeding obviously produces sick/stupid/deformed dogs. If breeding poo [as in "Cock-a-Poo," "Peek-a-Poo," etc.] dogs or other mutts, always point to "hybrid vigor" as proof of your dogs' superiority.

18. Remind everyone that you do not need a waiting list because your puppies are cute.

19. Assure everyone that your puppies will not end up in shelters because
they are cute.

20. Claim that YOUR breed never ends up in shelters in your area, therefore
your puppies will never end up in shelters.

21. If asked why you think your dogs are breeding quality, point out that
they "have papers." Extra points awarded for using the phrase "AKC
Certified." Double points if those papers come from the Continental Kennel
Club.

22. If you sell a sick puppy, always blame the owners for making it sick. If
the owners are clearly not responsible, blame their vet. (see #11)

23. If presented with irrefutable evidence proving you wrong on any excuses
you have used, pretend your server did not receive the post/e-mail.

24. Claim that none of the rules of ethical breeding apply to you because
you only intend to have one litter and therefore aren't a "real" breeder.

25. If all else fails, tell everyone who criticizes you to "get a life."

Written by Denna Pace . It was compiled by reading the horrible BYB ads on rec.pets.dogs.breed. Please credit when quoting.
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Old 21st June 2009, 01:33 PM
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Hazel this should be an automated response brought on by certain trigger words!
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Old 21st June 2009, 01:57 PM
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Breed one litter you become a breeder.... have one child you become a parent

The type of questions you are asking bode of a byb breeder one who has taken no care in looking at what is involved in breeding.

If your girl is already 4 , you have had plenty of time to educate yourself in what is required with breeding your dog.

Did you by any chance have your girl health screened for all the genetic problems that Boxers are plagued with, do you know what they are, what to test for , what to look and ask from the stud owner.

Is she KC registered.. what colour is she , how many homes do you have waiting...a Boxer can have large litters up to 11 pups.. have you that many homes waiting.

At 4 yrs old, she is getting to the stage of almost being to old to breed her for the first time

Are you prepared for the fact you could loose your girl in whelp... giving birth at such an age can and may be detrimental to her..

Have you taken into account the fact you may lose her and her pups..because it can happen to the best of breeders,
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Old 21st June 2009, 05:20 PM
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